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Hugh's avatar

You put a lot of work into this article and made good points I have to say you've got your facts well organized, you've also included some info I wasn't aware of.

An article well worth reading

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Medicine Girl's avatar

Thank you Hugh, I appreciate that. Writing doesn't come easy to me so It is a lot of time spent on each article.

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MellowKat's avatar

You’re one of the few out there who really resonates with me, these days.

I am grateful for your voice.

Having a cathartic cry over your fetal harvest series.

I once fell for those bullshit lies about women’s choice and empowerment. Those clever bastards really pulled the wool over a lot of our eyes for a long time.

I have learned so much in the past five years.

What a trip.

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Carol Guajardo's avatar

I am afraid of all the detox supplements out there. Methylene Blue is another one pushed, but now there is warnings on that. It's difficult to know who is right or wrong about anything at this stage.

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Medicine Girl's avatar

It is all garbage meant to make your more valuable for the medical industrial complex, Functional Medicine Included. They know cradle to grave what you are worth sick, diseased and demented. So they want you alive, working 50 hours a week and on 30 different drugs vitamins and supplements to get you as ill as possible while still alive

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Katannya Rayne's avatar

Thanks for all your hard work, hon. I quite surprised you still think its about the money tho. They have all the money, its more SINister that that. Its the slow boiling of the frog; de@th by a thousand cuts. So incrementally, its more like a million now.

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

LOTs of important details!

Finally, someone to support my view! I collected an enemy in Frances Leader, a self-proclaimed witch who made the Jesuits responsible for stuff done a hundred years before the order was founded, after I questioned her adherence to zeolite (which she couldn't support, except from pages that were selling the crap) in January, 2023:

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/is-healing-a-myth-altogether

Chances are that heavy metals (along with other toxic substances) accumulate in the body a lot faster than any detox would work. Eating little might do more than nothing...

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/to-eat-or-not-to-eat

Alternative "Medicine" has changed a lot in the last 30 years. Not that it's ever been perfect, but it looks like much of it has also become part of the psyop against the people:

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/what-do-the-fake-cures-accomplish

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Carol Guajardo's avatar

Francis was going to block me, but I forgot what I had posted on one of her articles. She seems to block anyone over viewpoints she disagrees with. I don't use foul language or make disrespectful comments to people. I decided not to read anything of hers anymore even if I agree with her on some things.

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

Her heart is full of hatred, which makes everything else she does questionable... She dumped some diatribes on me for questioning zeolite, the kind of which only "Karl" produced, when I asked legit questions about his "miracle cure" of sodium citrate:

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/is-sodium-citrate-good-for-you?utm_source=publication-search

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Carol Guajardo's avatar

I will read what you shared. She does get nasty with people. You're right, no one should speak that way and especially when someone isn't speaking to her in the same tone. It makes her not credible as far as I am concerned.

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MellowKat's avatar

I have an unsavory opinion about Frances.

I also unsubscribed. :)

I imagine her cackling in her scooter, furiously texting her disdain for anyone expressing opinions that do not align with her own.

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Lucas Nascario's avatar

Here we go again with MG and Agent's "Not FDA approved." You are supposed to be truthers; why the hell would you trust the FDA?

If supplements had to be FDA approved, they'd be nearly as dangerous as prescribed medications.

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Medicine Girl's avatar

I included because there’s the regulated by the FDA and the unregulated which shows thereafter the secondary market of those that don’t trust the FDA

I should’ve made that more clear

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Crixcyon's avatar

Your writing was brilliant anyway.

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Katherine's avatar

I appreciate Agent's work...but agree with you on the FDA issue. I have less than zero trust in the FDA.

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Katherine's avatar

A BRILLIANT article!

And I couldn't agree with you more about Agent's substack. ("Highly recommend becoming a subscriber and educating yourself to a higher level of true intelligence.") You BOTH are knockin' it out of the ballpark.

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Pamela A Everett Goodman's avatar

Wow wow wow MG. A million thanks for this info. Here I am 2 yrs later clean from supplements and so freaking grateful I never fell for the zeolite, IVM mb etc etc stuff. Larry cook is a zeo shill. And that cultivate guy with the copper is a fraud imo. So thanks for calling him out. There’s so many that have fallen into this trap. I never even knew about the soda cuz I only drink RO water for decades. Holy moly.

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Medicine Girl's avatar

Thank you and just looking at cultivate elevate dude and his partner and their grifting ways is enough, then I find copper toxicity is very common and easy to do with just small amounts of copper. And, I agree! So far any product claiming to be healthy is usually as bad and most time worse than the toxic product they are health washing!

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Medicine Girl's avatar

PS Love the zeoshills, I should have worked that into my article!

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Moorea Maguire's avatar

"Especially since the 3rd leading cause of death is medical error, the first leading cause of death then would be following medical advice." 😆🤣

I'd never heard of zeolite before this. Thanks for the heads up!

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Medicine Girl's avatar

😂 you see my humor

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Susan Tubetop's avatar

I perforated my bowel taking DE. All over the internet people are taking this and don't realize what could happen.

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Medicine Girl's avatar

How do you know it’s a diatomaceous earth? Not saying it wasn’t but how could you pin it down to that?

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Kathlean J Keesler's avatar

Wow thank you.

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Andrea W's avatar

Great article. I would love to hear your thoughts on diatomaceous earth if you’ve done any research into that.

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Medicine Girl's avatar

Great question and mine also. I still use it on my pets and to get rid of outdoor pests, BUT still haven't done a deep dive so that is next.

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MellowKat's avatar

My common sense tells me that Ingesting it would be like ingesting miniature razor blades.

Look at how it works on insects, and you’ll understand what it might do internally.

“Diatomaceous earth (DE) kills pests primarily through desiccation. The sharp edges of DE particles adhere to the exoskeletons of insects, causing abrasions that disrupt their ability to retain moisture and breathe properly.”

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Medicine Girl's avatar

I’ve seen the microscopic images but that doesn’t necessarily mean it will damage our tissue, I’ve rubbed in on my face and skin—-no bleeding

But I’m not defending it, still need to look into it

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Andrea W's avatar

I understand it’s use against pests (although it hasn’t worked for fire ants) but I should have clarified, I’m more interested in it’s use internally. I haven’t found much information about that other than the benefits of it. I’m skeptical of all supplements nowadays as well as skeptical of all things I find on the internet. lol

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Medicine Girl's avatar

As you should be 💯

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Katherine's avatar

Yes please (for an upcoming deep dive).

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lagertha swe's avatar

I always heard it needed to be dry to work - so ingesting it just doesn't make sense as it isn't dry when ingested. I use it externally - even as a dry shampoo! Will be interested to read your deep dive

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JSR's avatar

I use it internally for my cats when they get a skin problem. It goes away nicely and we continue on.

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Laura C's avatar

Excellent article. I fell for the zeolite spray for a short time and had a can of the zeolite powder I never opened and tossed a while ago. Unfortunately, I purchased A whole house water filter that structures the water and has copper pipes on it - UGH! Fortunately I have been getting spring water for drinking the past year thanks to you! I thought I questioned things before but now thanks to you and Agent it is at a whole new level.

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lagertha swe's avatar

Well, I still think copper pipes are better than the pex crap they use now - I don't know of any other alternatives

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Medicine Girl's avatar

Except for when you look at copper as it patinas, it gets green and that leeches into the water, look up the signs of copper toxicity

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lagertha swe's avatar

Interesting - so you would choose pex over copper?

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Roland Wehr's avatar

One way around that choice is to distill. Water condenses into glass container. I use it for drinking water in the city.

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Medicine Girl's avatar

I think that’s it. We get back to the basics and I have so much more time on my hands since I stopped chasing the miracle elixir.

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Kathlean J Keesler's avatar

Holy cow this medicine girl.substack.com Blew my mind. I am 67, I volunteer at Olympia Wa food ban. Holy cow this “product” is handed out. Some ??? overstock donation.

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Katannya Rayne's avatar

Its even worse than you think. Plants are highly sentient, but also toxic, that why they have ANTInutrients. They are indigestible cellulose, why do you think TH€¥ are pushing the veganism? Vegans are expiring in their early 50s even. Look how anorexic they look, esp. those who have been 'v€gan' for a decade or more. Veggies do not hydrate you.

MOST ppl do not want to hear this. The info is buried, but it is out there.

(See Darko Velcek-yt/wordpress articles). Please, dont shoot the messengers.

We are here to break through the cognitive diss0nance & raise awareness.

Stay observant, cultivate your intuition.

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Medicine Girl's avatar

By calling plants highly sentient with anti nutrients, straight out of the matrix playbook? They make up stories about the natural world like depleted soils anti nutrients because the plant doesn’t want to be eaten? 🤦‍♀️not how nature works

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Katannya Rayne's avatar

Someone needs to get educated. Plants are straight up cellulose. Fiber is a lie.

I am not the only one disagreeing with you. You want others to be open minded, but you don't want to be?

I have been in the healing arts since before you were born. And helped many to heal, esp. addictions. Everyone is addicted to the toxic food.

Veganism is a psyop. You'll see. People are dying because of it,

Maybe research it a little deeper? Maybe learn how nature really works?

Vegans are dehydrated & unhealthy at the cellular level.

You prolly think seasalt is bad for you, too?

Maybe show some respect for your elders.

You could have asked for more info & discussed it.

I am not your typical boomer that you've been programmed to dismiss,

make fun of, maybe even h8.

Come debate me in my yt channel. Kat I am, Intuitive Detective and Spellbreaker. Or stay willfully ignorant. I've observed how 'isms' are taking over people.

Do you want to compare credentials? Do you have proof? I kinda doubt it,

Are you in the top 1% of America in intelligence? I have receipts.

So you are okay with killing plants, but not animals?

This is a life eating life realm. Wake up to that fact.

Vegans are the biggest virtue-signallers...& never want to address facts.

But still I wish the best for you. Stay curious, keep questioning...

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Lucas Nascario's avatar

Agent and MG don't advocate animal- based diets. They're just scammers.

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Fred's avatar

They need to read Joachim Bartoll...

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Katannya Rayne's avatar

No they're not. They are learning as they go. Their hearts are in the right place.

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Shepherdess's avatar

Thank you for this! I have been waffling about taking a product called ZeoCharge (zeolitelabs.com) for a year now. They claim to have a pure natural product free of binders, etc. Another claim re binding essential minerals in the body:

“Because ZeoCharge™ has naturally occurring minerals held in its cage it will leave the other essential minerals, vitamins and nutrients alone because it prefers what it already has. When it comes across something it likes better, like a heavy metal such as mercury, lead, arsenic etc. it will swap the minerals it has for what it prefers. ZeoCharge™ is a selective binder.”

After researching Zeolite I decided this was a quality product as there are quack zeolite products out there (as with other products). But after reading your article, I’m not sure I want any “quality” zeolite in my body.

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Medicine Girl's avatar

I honestly don’t think minerals are meant to be absorbed by our body. We’re meant to eat the plants animals, fresh springwater real sunlight

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Rebecca jewett's avatar

What about how everything is sprayed with glysophates? What is your stance on that? Besides grow your own garden, I'm in MN it's not possible year round. Thank u!

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Adam Antium's avatar

Glyphosate is poison. It makes the body toxic. It has nothing to to with Zeolite.

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Rebecca jewett's avatar

Just popping in quick, I believe number 1 cause of death is hospital error

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Cabogirl's avatar

Well… yikes. I looked this up as you recommended and it sounds terrible. Thank you for referring me to this article.

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